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mully Posted - 25/06/2012 : 10:04:18

...look f**king stupid.

I have spoken.

Stephen
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Captain Bubble Posted - 30/06/2012 : 13:50:11
The fun and challenge of driving is using your skill to get the maximum performance and cornering available. In Midgets and Sprites, old Minis and Bubble Cars this fun is all available at road lega speeds. I did get my 1275 MG up to about an indicated 95 on the M 20, downhill and fairly briefly. It was a real white knuckle ride, with the steering getting very light as the front lifted, and plenty of noise and vibration. A few years later I had a Sierra Ghia, and that sort of speed was just dull, nothing happened, no drama, no tension. Great for long motorway journeys, but as much driving fun as watching paint dry.
drummerNick Posted - 30/06/2012 : 13:06:57
My P6 is a show winner, I don't take it out a lot as it's only got 54,000 on the clock. It's a proper series one 2000 sc. I've had all the V8 versions and yes they are fast, but don't suit the cars luxury. I still think it's one of the best designed cars ever built from and engineering point of view. It smells nice too! Young car mechanics can't believe the spring layout when they first see it. My Jag is a 4.0 supercharged thing, cheap as chips to buy and so far amazingly reliable. It looks like a dodgy dealer fly-by-nights car though and a bit embarrassing at times, but I turn the key and it gets me to where I need to go. My Midget was a 76 square arch, de bumpered with an 1800 injection engine. I never took it above 95mph, you didn't need to. It was serious fun even at legal speeds. Above 15mph you can drive in a thunder storm and never get wet.
Captain Bubble Posted - 30/06/2012 : 12:55:28
Yay Nick! Many cars go a lot faster than Midgets, but few are such fun to drive and so affordable, mine was a 1972 square wheel arch with chrome bumpers, in Mustard Yellow! 70s or what?!
Grandad bought the 6th P6 sold, a few teething troubles but quite a car, only problem was that it was so smooth it made me car sick!
drummerNick Posted - 30/06/2012 : 12:48:55
I sold my Midget last year to buy a Jaguar. The big car is great but I really miss the speed and fun factor of the little car. It had a K series engine in it and was fully race prepared. I drove it all through the winter even in the snow and ice of last year. I can't get on with these modern plastic cars, they don't smell right. As my Jaguar is in for it's MOT this week I have pulled the Rover (1967 P6) out of the garage. It never fails to astound me what an amazing machine that is. The suspension system is out of this world. I am looking at a Lomax next week as a fun car!! Yes air-cooled and not German, how fab!
OriginalAnimal Posted - 27/06/2012 : 10:16:49
quote:
Originally posted by rollingthunder

quote:
Originally posted by Captain Bubble

I have had a ride in a 1934 Morgan Matchless MX4 3 wheeler sports car and I doubt any car is more fun to be in, the closets you can get to a road going open cockpit plane. Lean out slightly and you can see the valves tapping away on top of the cylinder head. The throaty noise of the V twin up front and the smell of Castrol R is totally intoxicating. It might not be a fast as a modern machine, but it feels like it!



I can smell the Castrol R just reading that.



+1
rollingthunder Posted - 27/06/2012 : 10:09:38
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Bubble

I have had a ride in a 1934 Morgan Matchless MX4 3 wheeler sports car and I doubt any car is more fun to be in, the closets you can get to a road going open cockpit plane. Lean out slightly and you can see the valves tapping away on top of the cylinder head. The throaty noise of the V twin up front and the smell of Castrol R is totally intoxicating. It might not be a fast as a modern machine, but it feels like it!



I can smell the Castrol R just reading that.
martydrums Posted - 27/06/2012 : 10:09:31
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Bubble


There are a number of 2CV kit cars, the Lomax is the most familiar one, but the Blackjack Avion designed by genius Richard Oakes is the best:

http://jalopnik.com/246993/2cv+based-3+wheeler-the-blackjack-avion



Don't think I will look at a 2CV in quite the same way ever again!
Captain Bubble Posted - 27/06/2012 : 10:02:45
I have had a ride in a 1934 Morgan Matchless MX4 3 wheeler sports car and I doubt any car is more fun to be in, the closets you can get to a road going open cockpit plane. Lean out slightly and you can see the valves tapping away on top of the cylinder head. The throaty noise of the V twin up front and the smell of Castrol R is totally intoxicating. It might not be a fast as a modern machine, but it feels like it!
rollingthunder Posted - 27/06/2012 : 09:45:10
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Bubble

quote:
Originally posted by drummerNick

Having just this minute completed a 17.2 mile round trip to pick up a pint of milk, I would consider a small car. I was thinking about one of those Citroen 3 wheel kit car things but most of the roads round here have grass growing down the middle of them, nightmare for braking. I would happily drive a Smart Car



There are a number of 2CV kit cars, the Lomax is the most familiar one, but the Blackjack Avion designed by genius Richard Oakes is the best:

http://jalopnik.com/246993/2cv+based-3+wheeler-the-blackjack-avion




I'd love one of those. I've got a replica WW2 sheepskin flying jacket, so a long white scarf and a pair of goggles and it's chocks away.
I would prefer a Morgan, but they are getting pricey.
Captain Bubble Posted - 27/06/2012 : 09:12:38
I used to have an MG Midget, open top two-seater, loved it. As soon as you go above about 5-10 mph all the rain gets deflected over you by the windscreen. If you have to stop at a level crossing or junction you put up your umbrella. All year round I used to drive with roof down and heater on, partly because it was the only way to get the bassist and his double bass in...the db sat on the passenger seat, the bassist sat on the boot and clung on!
Badman_batman Posted - 27/06/2012 : 08:52:50
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Bubble

quote:
Originally posted by drummerNick

Having just this minute completed a 17.2 mile round trip to pick up a pint of milk, I would consider a small car. I was thinking about one of those Citroen 3 wheel kit car things but most of the roads round here have grass growing down the middle of them, nightmare for braking. I would happily drive a Smart Car



There are a number of 2CV kit cars, the Lomax is the most familiar one, but the Blackjack Avion designed by genius Richard Oakes is the best:

http://jalopnik.com/246993/2cv+based-3+wheeler-the-blackjack-avion



Im sorry but that is just horrible, i love air cooled and my grand father had many VW Beatles and i would work tirelessly on them with him every sunday

Its britain and it rains what use is this car ? This is one of those cars where you have a jacket fleece lined buttoned up to your chin so you can feel the freezing cold wind and rain through the last 2 or 3 hairs left on your head

Captain Bubble Posted - 27/06/2012 : 08:45:07
quote:
Originally posted by drummerNick

Having just this minute completed a 17.2 mile round trip to pick up a pint of milk, I would consider a small car. I was thinking about one of those Citroen 3 wheel kit car things but most of the roads round here have grass growing down the middle of them, nightmare for braking. I would happily drive a Smart Car



There are a number of 2CV kit cars, the Lomax is the most familiar one, but the Blackjack Avion designed by genius Richard Oakes is the best:

http://jalopnik.com/246993/2cv+based-3+wheeler-the-blackjack-avion
drummerNick Posted - 26/06/2012 : 23:21:24
Having just this minute completed a 17.2 mile round trip to pick up a pint of milk, I would consider a small car. I was thinking about one of those Citroen 3 wheel kit car things but most of the roads round here have grass growing down the middle of them, nightmare for braking. I would happily drive a Smart Car
Badman_batman Posted - 26/06/2012 : 19:49:46
I have seen G4S security guards driving them, and believe me they were probably lubed up with baby oil to get it
Sean Posted - 26/06/2012 : 19:26:51
quote:
Originally posted by mully

quote:
Originally posted by logic_user99

My dad had one when I was 15/16.


You were a fraction?

Stephen



Love it!
OriginalAnimal Posted - 25/06/2012 : 22:45:38
quote:
Originally posted by MustangMick

Fuel consumption on the Smart cars isn't that great.

You can turn one of the Smart Roadsters into one of these though.
Banks Europa (Lotus Europa replica)

http://www.banks-europa.co.uk/articles/kitcar_08/kitcar_brabus_europa.pdf

Cheers
Mick



Aaaarrrggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh Not a Europa!!!!they were hideous and about as reliable as a TVR

The car dealer I worked for sold a white 72 model and every day it came back with a different fault, the only thing that wasn't complained about was the plastic padding repair to the OSR wheel arch where I hit a radiator whilst backing out of the cleaning shop and we patched it up with PP and some random white paint, I then stood in front of it whilst the customer checked it over

Oops!!
Captain Bubble Posted - 25/06/2012 : 18:08:15
Over the last 30 years or so the quality of kit cars has gone right up, and that one looks pretty good, plus probably "Less Of Troubles, Usually Sortable" compared to the original!
MustangMick Posted - 25/06/2012 : 17:51:51
Fuel consumption on the Smart cars isn't that great.

You can turn one of the Smart Roadsters into one of these though.
Banks Europa (Lotus Europa replica)

http://www.banks-europa.co.uk/articles/kitcar_08/kitcar_brabus_europa.pdf

Cheers
Mick
Captain Bubble Posted - 25/06/2012 : 16:17:40
The old bubble cars were perfect in their day, but fail to meet most modern safety standards, and people used to modern cars do not feel "safe" in them. The fact that if a car feels less "safe" to the occupants they take fewer risks! Still, bubble cars are safer than a cycle, moped, scooter or small motor cycle! Heinkel-Trojans like mine were the best for fuel: 80-90 mpg on unleaded, 4 stroke so good emissions, AND unlike the 'schmitts....hydraulic brakes which stop the car instantly.
OriginalAnimal Posted - 25/06/2012 : 15:56:36
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Bubble

Myself and some friends sat in a Twizy at Bromley Pageant of Motoring a few Sundays ago. First impressions were that it seemed a lot of fun and possibly of some use in some situations for some users..

Then I noticed that the swing up door/roof has big open gaps right near your hands and smaller gaps all around, not nice if you get caught in a shower or plan to use it all year round. No obvious handle or grip to pull the door/roof shut. Price information did not include cost of hiring the battery pack. There is a child's back seat/luggage space, but horribly cramped and claustrophobic for any child to ride in. We were left with a strong feeling that it is not really practical and not fully developed. One of my friends often uses a G Whizz for getting into London from Essex and at first was quite attracted to the Twizy but soon changed his mind.



Yup, the battery hire is quite expensive at £45-60 per month, on their large saloon car it's £70 per month.

Why isn't something along the lines of the Meschersmitt tandem three wheeler reproduced, even with a petrol engine, the economy would be great and emissions can be tightly controlled
Captain Bubble Posted - 25/06/2012 : 15:42:17
Myself and some friends sat in a Twizy at Bromley Pageant of Motoring a few Sundays ago. First impressions were that it seemed a lot of fun and possibly of some use in some situations for some users..

Then I noticed that the swing up door/roof has big open gaps right near your hands and smaller gaps all around, not nice if you get caught in a shower or plan to use it all year round. No obvious handle or grip to pull the door/roof shut. Price information did not include cost of hiring the battery pack. There is a child's back seat/luggage space, but horribly cramped and claustrophobic for any child to ride in. We were left with a strong feeling that it is not really practical and not fully developed. One of my friends often uses a G Whizz for getting into London from Essex and at first was quite attracted to the Twizy but soon changed his mind.
OriginalAnimal Posted - 25/06/2012 : 15:18:59
If you don't like the Smart Car, what about the Renault Twizy?

http://www.renault.co.uk/Cars/model/twizy/explore.aspx

averagewaistdude Posted - 25/06/2012 : 15:10:31
This...?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/ollythedolly/SL742136.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/ollythedolly/SL742134.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/ollythedolly/SL742137.jpg
Allegro Posted - 25/06/2012 : 13:49:42
There are some Smart cars that I have seen with ass written after the manufactures name; like this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-X-SMART-ASS-Car-Decals-Stickers-Graphics-/160541745563
mully Posted - 25/06/2012 : 13:22:47
quote:
Originally posted by ian-40

i like em too.

by the way, 15/16th is 24mm if you need a metric equivalent spanner



Don't call logic a spanner.

Stephen
JKDrummerDude Posted - 25/06/2012 : 13:01:30
I drove one once as my car was in the garage. Awful. Really bad. The example I drove wasn't helped by dodgy tracking, but the best thing about it is it's fuel consumption.
Captain Bubble Posted - 25/06/2012 : 12:21:19
Curiously odd looking and fun to drive, I like them but they are not great value for money: a Suzuki Wagon is £5000 cheaper, and can take 5 people and luggage while only being slightly bigger.
ian-40 Posted - 25/06/2012 : 11:48:05
i like em too.

by the way, 15/16th is 24mm if you need a metric equivalent spanner
martydrums Posted - 25/06/2012 : 11:26:12
I must be in a minority of one here. I think they look quite cool.
averagewaistdude Posted - 25/06/2012 : 11:20:26
quote:
Originally posted by moosetication

quote:
Originally posted by logic_user99

And talk about a PITA when you try and get any kind of kit inside... No chance!
A certain prestidigitator, formerly of this parish, would very much disagree with you.


My thought exactly. Was a "magic" moment when he posted up the photo...
logic_user99 Posted - 25/06/2012 : 10:59:15
quote:
Originally posted by mully

quote:
Originally posted by logic_user99

My dad had one when I was 15/16.


You were a fraction?

Stephen



No; I was a single bar of 15/16.
dwpaddy Posted - 25/06/2012 : 10:53:55
quote:
Originally posted by beezerk

quote:
Originally posted by dwpaddy

Gay Stephen, one of our drivers, has one.
Suits him though.
He has the Cabroilet version...not that that makes any difference.
Still looks stupid.



That makes sense, I saw one of your trucks last Friday near Worksop, the driver had a pink dress on



That's quite right too.
We operate a 'casual dress Friday' in here.
Lucky for you you didn't see our Hell's Angel.....one scary mofo.
beezerk Posted - 25/06/2012 : 10:51:08
quote:
Originally posted by dwpaddy

Gay Stephen, one of our drivers, has one.
Suits him though.
He has the Cabroilet version...not that that makes any difference.
Still looks stupid.



That makes sense, I saw one of your trucks last Friday near Worksop, the driver had a pink dress on
dwpaddy Posted - 25/06/2012 : 10:49:07
Gay Stephen, one of our drivers, has one.
Suits him though.
He has the Cabroilet version...not that that makes any difference.
Still looks stupid.
gaz farrimond Posted - 25/06/2012 : 10:46:02


The problem is in the name.

Smart Car: Nothing smart about them.


moosetication Posted - 25/06/2012 : 10:37:37
quote:
Originally posted by logic_user99

And talk about a PITA when you try and get any kind of kit inside... No chance!
A certain prestidigitator, formerly of this parish, would very much disagree with you.
Pegdrummer Posted - 25/06/2012 : 10:29:59
quote:
Originally posted by mully

quote:
Originally posted by logic_user99

My dad had one when I was 15/16.


You were a fraction?

Stephen



Coffee - monitor - only Monday morning.....
mully Posted - 25/06/2012 : 10:25:02
quote:
Originally posted by logic_user99

My dad had one when I was 15/16.


You were a fraction?

Stephen
logic_user99 Posted - 25/06/2012 : 10:18:16
My dad had one when I was 15/16. Felt like a right knob getting a lift in it. And talk about a PITA when you try and get any kind of kit inside... No chance!

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