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grahamcolyer
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 27/10/2011 : 18:14:35
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| Anyone know what these cymbals are? They have a stamp mark of ;-- lion with sword in paw, small crown over lion, sun behind lion, 2 small alpine horns below lion linked to each other. They measure 13 and half inches, very heavy with rivet fixed to bell hole. Suspect circa 1930's - 1940's maybe orchestral hand cymbals? or hi-hats? Hoping someone out there will know what these are. Thanks for looking. |
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delboydrums
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/10/2011 : 21:15:57
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| Any pictures? |
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Th0mas25
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/10/2011 : 21:32:32
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| The rivets/grommets would point to them being orchestral or marching cymbals rather than hats. The logo you describe doesn't ring any bells though (Alpine horns? maybe Swiss/Paiste? I dunno...). Yes, pics would help, someone might recognise them. |
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MGM
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/10/2011 : 01:10:15
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Very unusual stamp, and (I think) pretty rare !
The cymbal is a "Zveltiam", which is supposed to sound rather Turkish/Arabic, but it was made in Italy. It was a UFIP "stencil" brand - made by them but branded to give it a more exotic sounding name. They were made in the 50s.
If you look closely at the cymbal, you might also find any of five other tell-tale marks - i. the word "Constantinople"; ii. a star; iii. a crescent (sometimes the star and crescent were stamped as one image); iv. what looks to be an Arabic word (but is, in fact, completely meaningless); and v. the word "Zveltiam".
Search for "Zveltiam" or "Zveltian" on Google (other search engines are available !) for more info. |
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MGM
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Th0mas25
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United Kingdom
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Blacksky
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Japan
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Posted - 28/10/2011 : 08:39:09
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That is cool! Thanks for sharing this interesting thread. |
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grahamcolyer
New Contributer
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/10/2011 : 10:43:53
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| Hi, thanks for the identification of these cymbals. There's no other marking on them only the lion stamp etc. |
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IROCK
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USA
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Posted - 26/05/2012 : 23:14:23
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| I think they are Bellotti Cymbals. |
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