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brushbaby
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 Posted - 15/05/2012 : 10:49:12
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on a trip to see Mark Jeffs of Rusty drums to drop something off I found myself back in my car with a full set of new heads and a 1947 Leedy 14x8 Broadway snare in gold sparkle.
I have been a 14x5 man for most of my life from my early days of Prem 2000 through various others with the odd 6 1/2 creeping in here and there.
Like most people when I have a new toy I want to give it a whirl asap so I took the snare to a gig on Sunday night.
I sit at a sort of mid height with my legs at right angles and am not what you would call lofty at 5 foot 7 in height.
Positioning my snare stand at it's lowest point I found the snare was still coming up to about belly button height and began to fret as there was no time to run off and replace the drum.
So I put up with it and to my surprise found that if anything I had more control and after a few songs it all felt very natural, rim shots were a doddle and rolls were far more comfortable.
I do remember seeing old photo's of the likes of Krupa and Rich with their snare drum positioned quite high and just wonder if any of you play like this or have tried it, I must admit it feels like I may have had a happy accident and as for 8 inch deep snare drums I am now a fan they sound superb. |
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Dave S
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christianmurphy
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Posted - 15/05/2012 : 11:07:18
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I sit just a bit higher than right angles for my legs, and have snare at about waist height. Basically have my snare just high enough so I can rimshot without having to change my hand positioning to avoid making too much contact with my leg.
I'd rather have my snare higher than I like than lower though! |
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logic_user99
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Posted - 15/05/2012 : 11:23:29
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I play with my snare about 1/2 inch above my knee height. If I'm playing trad. grip for the whole gig, I'll add a bit of an angle to the drum (away from me) and bring the height up to maybe an inch above knee height.
I can't stand seeing snare drums that are positioned vastly lower than knee height or (worse) lower than knees AND angled towards the drummer. |
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lee haydn
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Posted - 15/05/2012 : 11:37:36
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| Iv'e seen drummers that hit their thigh every time they hit the snare, that cannot be good, iv'e always played my snare high, even higher than midriff when i was playing trad' grip with the slightest angle away from me, almost flat, but now i'm back to matched i'm about where your'e describing with the angle slightly towards me for ease of rim shots,, |
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Unkle Kev
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Posted - 15/05/2012 : 12:40:38
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| High enough to avoid gubbing my legs with every rimshot. I found a few years ago that raising my snare an extra inch helped with control and dynamics too. |
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Sharklaar
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Posted - 15/05/2012 : 13:15:24
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Interesting thread. I never really thought about this too much until recently when I'd caught my left hand on a piece of hardware somewhere, I didn't even notice I was bleeding. Later on I wondered what the little red patches were all over my left thigh... my snare is apparently much too low so I was hitting my thing thigh with every rimshot, thus transferring blood from hand to jeans.
Perhaps it's time to raise the snare up a bit... |
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moosetication
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Sharklaar
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Posted - 15/05/2012 : 13:32:36
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quote:
Originally posted by moosetication
quote:
Originally posted by Sharklaar
...I was hitting my thing with every rimshot...
Are you some kinda prevert?
Typing fail. Post corrected... |
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thebeaver
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Posted - 15/05/2012 : 13:55:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Sharklaar
quote:
Originally posted by moosetication
quote:
Originally posted by Sharklaar
...I was hitting my thing with every rimshot...
Are you some kinda prevert?
Typing fail. Post corrected...
Don't worry yourself, pretty sure Moose had a typing fail too, unless he really was wondering if you were a prevert?
pre·vert
#8194; #8194;[v. pre-vurt; n. pree-vert] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1. To anticipate green vegetation before it takes form
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thebeaver
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Posted - 15/05/2012 : 13:58:29
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quote:
Originally posted by logic_user99
I can't stand seeing snare drums that are positioned vastly lower than knee height or (worse) lower than knees AND angled towards the drummer.
This gets me too! I suggest 'correction' to students I see doing this, but what can you do? Some of them clearly know better than the guy they're paying to teach them! |
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moosetication
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delboydrums
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Posted - 15/05/2012 : 16:05:20
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Jacques Prevert - great poet........."Rapelle-toi, Barbara" etc
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OriginalAnimal
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Posted - 15/05/2012 : 16:06:58
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| Just above my thighs and angled away from me, very similar to BR though not intentionally |
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thebeaver
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Posted - 15/05/2012 : 18:06:15
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Originally posted by moosetication
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Originally posted by thebeaver
Don't worry yourself, pretty sure Moose had a typing fail too, unless he really was wondering if you were a prevert?
You've not seen Dr Strangelove (or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb), then?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057012/quotes?qt=qt0454456
Ahha, no I have not! My bad! |
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drummerant
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Posted - 15/05/2012 : 18:19:14
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| Mines at the right hieght by the sound of it! |
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Unkle Kev
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Posted - 15/05/2012 : 19:09:43
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quote:
Originally posted by thebeaver
quote:
Originally posted by moosetication
quote:
Originally posted by thebeaver
Don't worry yourself, pretty sure Moose had a typing fail too, unless he really was wondering if you were a prevert?
You've not seen Dr Strangelove (or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb), then?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057012/quotes?qt=qt0454456
Ahha, no I have not! My bad!
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G Lo
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Posted - 15/05/2012 : 19:45:02
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| I have my snare as low as it will go. There are times that I end up with a huge bruise on my leg- not great I know but I like it low and have no problems rimshotting. Should try it higher really....? |
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PhilR
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Posted - 15/05/2012 : 23:04:43
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I have mine flattish about 1 inch above the tops of my legs and I sit fairly low with legs more or less parallel to the ground.
I used to suffer from chronic leg-puncher syndrome as well but I think this was mainly caused by sitting too high. I don't even know why I was, I've always preferred sitting pretty low down for a 6' chap. Plus I'm fairly long in the limb so I sit back and don't straddle the snare with my legs. |
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brushbaby
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Posted - 16/05/2012 : 09:38:21
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| Thanks for the input chaps, interesting stuff, about an inch above the knee seems to be the common position, mine would have been a little higher at about 3 or 4 above due to the size of the snare but having tried a 14x5 in the higher position last night I think I may stick with it, it would seem that a good few have the snare tipped slightly away from them as well, I was always taught to do this too and have never understood the idea of tipping it toward you, I'm the same with toms I have them almost flat to aid rim shots. |
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