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Originally posted by Bazarre

The adventure of one winner = winner's adventure.
The adventures of more than one winner = winners' adventures.

Regarding the posh car logos -- just my opinion, mind but I've heard of something like this before. A car logo, while being copyright of the owner, is out in the public domain. I think it is perfectly acceptable to show it so long as you are a) not intending to make any claim or insinuation that you own the logo, b) that you are not intending to make any financial profit out of showing it and c) you are not showing it in any way that is defamatory to the product or company. Example -- a Ford car pulls up on a t.v. programme and the badge is visible. Public domain stuff here, unless someone says that this make of car is fecking crap (even then, the addition of "in my opinion" likely makes it OK). I've got a period (early 1980s) private eye type novel on the go in which the main character drives a BMW M635 which he loves. The car gets mentioned only in positive terms, so I'm happy to go ahead with that. Like yours, the BM may feature on the front cover.

The Von Zeppelin family had a go at Led Zep for using the name, but got nowhere because the band were not using it in any defamatory way.

But some big brands might well get ar$y about it and cause unnecessary delay, costs or whatever. It might be an idea to contact the marketing departments of those companies to get their opinion. After all, if you are not berating the product, it another bit of free advertising for them.

Good luck with the novel -- keep us posted on progress. I'm very interested in anyone who writes fiction and how they get on with publishers/Kindle etc!

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Originally posted by pure_rock_fury

Best of luck and all that, but if I wanted to commit a 92,000 word epic to paper, I'd learn how to use apostrophes before beginning.

Also, stop making new accounts. It must be tedious for the moderators to deal with your repeated flouncing.

What happened to moving away and focusing on the thing you can actually do - drumming? Did you even read the veritable smorgasbord of suggestions people took the time to give you?

In summary: go to schools and other local institutions and make yourself known. Craving attention online and trying to create new drum teaching formats is not what you need to be doing right now.

This is meant constructively. Seriously. Go to places that teach drums in person. If you've already done it, go again. And again.

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Originally posted by Dan Jacobs

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Originally posted by pure_rock_fury

Best of luck and all that, but if I wanted to commit a 92,000 word epic to paper, I'd learn how to use apostrophes before beginning.

Also, stop making new accounts. It must be tedious for the moderators to deal with your repeated flouncing.

What happened to moving away and focusing on the thing you can actually do - drumming? Did you even read the veritable smorgasbord of suggestions people took the time to give you?

In summary: go to schools and other local institutions and make yourself known. Craving attention online and trying to create new drum teaching formats is not what you need to be doing right now.

This is meant constructively. Seriously. Go to places that teach drums in person. If you've already done it, go again. And again.

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Thanks for that.

I can only assume that my old account was deleted as I couldn't log in, so I created another one - I'm sure that isn't a huge problem for moderators.

I am definitely moving house, as I have ads in newsagents and have written to over 200 schools with no reply - the problem is that I don't have the funds to move - so what would you do?

I've applied for jobs all over the place and should have an interview next week, just waiting for a day/time from them.

How am I craving attention online?
How am I trying to create new drum teaching formats?

Please don't tell me how to suck eggs, this thread was supposed to be positive as I was simply asking for a little bit of advice.

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Originally posted by Me2.

Rich or Poor

A Whiners Adventure


Surely.

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Originally posted by Dan Jacobs

Just call me a rubber ball!

Barry, your email sounds really interesting.

I have finished the first draft, but my sister has taken 5 hours to read the first 9 pages :) - she's a slow reader!

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Originally posted by WendyB

I've tried a couple of times to read your novel Dan, but am not having much success finding the time to read (I have got further than page 9 though). I will PM you separately with more comments when I have had an opportunity to read further. I must admit that I am struggling with it, simply because the style of writing is not one I would normally read and its not sitting well with me.

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Originally posted by WendyB

I've tried a couple of times to read your novel Dan, but am not having much success finding the time to read (I have got further than page 9 though). I will PM you separately with more comments when I have had an opportunity to read further. I must admit that I am struggling with it, simply because the style of writing is not one I would normally read and its not sitting well with me.

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Originally posted by Captain Bubble

As Bazarre says, also the word Novel means it is a fictional work, a story, so saying "Fictional Novel" is like saying "a circular circle".

Use an apostrophe to indicate possession: Dad's hat. (the hat belongs to dad)
Way back in time it was "Dad, his hat" but the "his" was shortened to just the "s" and the apostrophe replaced the "hi". Apostrophes show that letters have been omitted.

If a word indicates a plural (a meeting of Dads, TVs for sale) then there is no apostrophe.

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Originally posted by Dan Jacobs

It all takes place in America, and is written in the first person. A guy wins the lottery, his whole family have been seriously poor forever, so he buys a huge house, a Ferrari and then in the middle of the night his parents are kidnapped. He is given seven days to pay pretty much all the money he has left, $5million, and is told to keep his cell phone on him at all times for further instructions. If he calls the cops or contacts the media his parents will be killed.
Within two days he has a terrible car crash leaving him in hospital and his phone is smashed to pieces.

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Originally posted by Dan Jacobs

Thanks for the heads up. I guess you'll just have to wait until the book is available, as I do think it has a lot of potential. The guy who wins the lottery is 19 and in his last couple of months at college, so his friends step in to help him, one of which is extremely clumsy and wears thick glasses and another is a beautiful blonde girl who is a seriously nerdy characterpThere are a few twists along the way, and everything comes to a head in the final chapter.
A lot of re-writing is needed before I do anything else with it.

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Originally posted by Me2.

Sounds like Michael Carroll has his parents abducted in the Scooby Doo Mystery van and the villan is called Scorpio. Dirty Harry then gets a slap from some down-an-outs in beverly hills for peeking at Hot Mary through a window - while standing on some bins... I'm betting Meg Ryan is the climax at the end - OMG!

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Originally posted by Dan Jacobs

Thanks Tom,
In all seriousness I'm only writing for enjoyment at the moment. Apart from job searching, there's not an awful lot to do, so to pass the time I'm writing, I just want to get better and do the best I can.
Apologies for my post above, but it just gets on my tits that any thread I start turns into a 'slagging off Dan' session.

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Originally posted by mully
You're here because you want to be here, same as the rest of us.

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Originally posted by beezerk

I ain't seen any novel questions yet.

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Originally posted by Rocket

What's the Job, Dan?

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Originally posted by StormBlast

I'm just impressed by the writing of 92000 words.

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Originally posted by thebeaver

I can see Dan's point. There's just not one single encouraging post for him here. All snidey remarks and critasism. said in jest or constructivly maybe, but would it kill just one of us here to say "what I like about the idea is...". The thread's just littered with doubt for it and almost none of us have read any of it other than the briefest of plot overviews.

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