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monkeythedrummer
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 Posted - 06/06/2012 : 10:52:14
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As lots of you know I've been looking at really light hardware for a while. It's taken a bit of time and work but I'm really happy with what I've got now. They were 90s Pearl stands which I've modded pretty heavily.
All the tubing was replaced with aluminium, and rivets were drilled out and replaced with nylon threaded nuts and bolts. Very light and very sturdy.
On the straight stand I also did a conversion which made the stand flat based. I removed the top half of the leg, and then swapped around the top and bottom pieces of the leg, adding another hole 1/3 of the way along the leg for the strut. It's very sturdy - and the whole thing weighs just 1.8 kg - a fair bit less than the Gibraltar flat based equivalent!
I'll be converted the other stands to flat based in time, however as they are booms I can't get away with such a small footprint, so will make the leg longer - there's also the chance of having a convertable flat/regular stand if I get it right!
Anyway some pictures..
This....
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/andrewlikestoplay/IMG_0839.jpg
Turned to this...
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/andrewlikestoplay/IMG_0840.jpg
All aluminium....
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/andrewlikestoplay/IMG_0841.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/andrewlikestoplay/IMG_0843.jpg
I find the loose rivets by far the weakest point on single braced hardware. Drill those out at replace with locking nylon bolts and you'll have something as sturdy as anything.
The best thing is I can have the snare stand, hi hat, bass pedal and 2 x booms in a rucksack slung over the shoulder without too much issue - which will be needed when I bring out the suitcase kit in the works! |
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Captain Bubble
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Posted - 06/06/2012 : 11:28:40
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| Great stuff, agree about those pesky rivets, I hammer them tight on an anvil, but bolts and nyloks are so much better! Just weighed one of my Premier Lokfast cymbal stand ... 1.93 Kg, although I am using it with the lower snare stand base so a normal one would be a little heavier. You would get the weight of yours down a fair bit more if you found an alternative to the big castings for height adjustment and cymbal tilter. Whaddaya waitin' for, get busy! |
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monkeythedrummer
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Posted - 06/06/2012 : 11:33:09
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Cheers Capt'
You are quite right the tilters in particular are pretty heavy. However I do like everything matching, so I've got to wait till I get get some matching replacements. I did have two stagg cymbal stand which were terrible, but kept two the tilters and they are far lighter so I may grab one more stagg stand and swap them over.
However before that I'd have to test the stagg ones pretty hard, don't want the tilter loosening mid song!
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Captain Bubble
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Th0mas25
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Posted - 06/06/2012 : 20:51:28
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Very inventive Monkey, they look great, obviously lighter than standard, and if they're as strong as you say you might just be onto something! I like the bare aluminium look but there's also the option I guess to have the tubing anodised a different colour, that'd look pretty cool for those into that kind of thing  |
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benjisonfire
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teethmeister
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Posted - 07/06/2012 : 10:29:51
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| I was on the cusp of doing something like this years ago - but with carbon fibre tubing. I'd figured out how to do the clampy bits, tilters, the lot. Nylon nuts and bolts. It was going to be a bit pricey though. Then I started playing with cymbals and got distracted... |
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moosetication
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beezerk
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Posted - 07/06/2012 : 10:57:29
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Originally posted by moosetication
How robust are those nylon bolts going to be with multiple open/close cycles and metal edges? Are they sleeved or something?
My thoughts exactly, they'll get knacked in no time if they aren't protected somehow.
Look good though but I don't think I'd trust them long term  |
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jamoca
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Posted - 07/06/2012 : 11:05:15
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| Seen these in the flesh. They really are very cleverly done. |
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Prog
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Posted - 07/06/2012 : 11:18:40
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Originally posted by moosetication
How robust are those nylon bolts going to be with multiple open/close cycles and metal edges? Are they sleeved or something?
I'd assumed that monkey meant steel bolts with 'nyloc' nuts. That's how it reads to me anyway. |
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Prog
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monkeythedrummer
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Posted - 08/06/2012 : 08:07:12
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Tubing was ebay, but sure there may be cheaper, it's all standard sizes.
Prog is right, I meant metal bolts with nylon inserts to lock the bolt in place.
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Captain Bubble
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Posted - 08/06/2012 : 08:20:04
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| I thought you meant that! Nylon bolts are great for some jobs but not pivot points on drum stands! |
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Prog
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Posted - 08/06/2012 : 08:54:03
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Originally posted by monkeythedrummer
Tubing was ebay, but sure there may be cheaper, it's all standard sizes.
Thanks, I'll check it out. I'm just wondering how light the Gibraltar flat base stands could be. |
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Captain Bubble
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Posted - 08/06/2012 : 09:07:30
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| Andrew, I believe you live down in the Tooting area. and at the south end of Tooting High Street there is a parade of shops between Blackshaw Rd (which leads to the Hospital) and the railway bridge. Last shop before the bridge is/was George King Metals. I used to go there a lot, not as cheap as buying from stockholders, but any length you want, and a huge variety of different metals and shapes. I heard that it closed but might have re-opened, so worth a look if you are nearby, and if you do have a look, please let me know if it is still there or gone, cheers! |
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