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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 13/06/2012 : 13:57:07
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I have no intention to compete with Mssrs. Carrera, Tocknell, Gladstone and so on - but it gives me great satisfaction to know I can do it myself!
14x6˝", 4 mm (6 ply) birch, reinforcement rings the same, and will be fitted with an innershell á la Premier Resonator when lugs and strainer is fitted. Will be made with a 30 degree inner, 45 outer and rounded apex kind of bearing edge.
Nothing revolutionary, and not something I couldn´t have bought quite easily. But I made it, it is round and I am proud!
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dogface
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Posted - 13/06/2012 : 14:15:04
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| Well done! Any pictures? And if it isn't too cheeky, how did you do it? Made a former first, then layed up leyers of veneer inside? |
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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 13/06/2012 : 14:53:24
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Exactly.
2 mm, 3 ply veneer. Female former - made from a lot of slabs of 22mm plywood, leftovers from my roof - and a wheel from my wifes wheelbarrow on the inside to push the layers together while the glue hardens. It JUST fitted in, with the tire flattened and crumbled - and when pumped up real hard, it mushed the layers well together.
I made sure, that each layer really was just ˝ mm too long to fit in - had to be placed in the former Resonator-innershell style.
Not rocket science, and not really special. But again, it could be done without any special tools.
Pics will follow - possibly during the manufacture of the next one. That will be a really thick 4", I think. Something like 12-14 mm.
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beezerk
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Posted - 13/06/2012 : 15:10:18
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Petersen
2 mm, 3 ply veneer. Female former - made from a lot of slabs of 22mm plywood, leftovers from my roof - and a wheel from my wifes wheelbarrow on the inside to push the layers together while the glue hardens. It JUST fitted in, with the tire flattened and crumbled - and when pumped up real hard, it mushed the layers well together.
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Bazarre
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Posted - 13/06/2012 : 16:19:50
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Petersen
Exactly.
2 mm, 3 ply veneer. Female former - made from a lot of slabs of 22mm plywood, leftovers from my roof - and a wheel from my wifes wheelbarrow on the inside to push the layers together while the glue hardens. It JUST fitted in, with the tire flattened and crumbled - and when pumped up real hard, it mushed the layers well together.
I made sure, that each layer really was just ˝ mm too long to fit in - had to be placed in the former Resonator-innershell style.
Not rocket science, and not really special. But again, it could be done without any special tools.
Pics will follow - possibly during the manufacture of the next one. That will be a really thick 4", I think. Something like 12-14 mm.
Jon
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Th0mas25
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Posted - 17/06/2012 : 04:18:53
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Great stuff Jon, very clever but simple at the same time, like the best ideas often are. Looking forward to seeing the finished shell/snare  |
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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 17/06/2012 : 09:19:25
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I am going to do the edges in a friends workshop today - hopefully I can do them with the lugs and strainer in situ, as I can then also have the reso-liner fitted while working the router.
That will make a nice, smooth inner edge.
Will post pics!
Jon
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Jon Petersen
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Th0mas25
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Posted - 17/06/2012 : 19:55:52
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Hope you don't take this the wrong way Jon, maybe it's my monitor, but the exterior looks like it could do with a few more coats of oil, or some buffing or something to give it more of a shine. But the construction of the shell itself, the bearing edges and the reso liner look absolutely brilliant, a real pro job Jon!! and I like the use of the vintage hardware. Now you have the former and wheelbarrow wheel (yeah I can't see your wife getting that back haha!) I guess it won't be too difficult to make more. Very cool 
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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 18/06/2012 : 00:25:51
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I will do more - in fact I have ordered 2 sheets (154 cm x 154 cm ) more.
Next will be slabs of 3-4 mm birch, beech and oak from a special supplier, a friend of my family with his own sawmill....
Regarding the finish - I like it as it is, it is not really hardened yet, but you might be right, I have been very impatient.
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dogface
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Posted - 18/06/2012 : 11:13:02
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I think you've done a great job, well done. As for the finish, I think simple oil finishes work very well for certain types of wood (close grained stuff). However, for the wood you have used (can't tell what it is) I think grain filler and stain would help before applying the final finish. |
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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 18/06/2012 : 12:47:22
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It is birch.
Actually, it became darker than I´d expected, but as I have Premier Projector kit I am going to strip of its coating, I have considered a couple of finishes. Oil like this or some semi-matt/silk PU lacquer.
This snare was a way of testing, as I presume the Projectors will act to the treatment very much in the same way.
I think I will like the lacquer better....
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dogface
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Posted - 18/06/2012 : 14:02:42
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My comments sounded unnecessarily critcal - sorry. You did a great job and I'm very impressed. Birch is a very fine grained wood which doesn't need grain filler, and so is beech. Oak is very open grained and needs filling to achieve a mirror-like gloss. However, an un-filled matte/satin finish is traditional for oak. There's a million options when it comes to wood finishing, but you probably know that already. |
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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 18/06/2012 : 14:40:30
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I didn´t take your comment as negative - at all. I got exactly the same comment from a friend on the danish forum.
It is very smooth to the touch, and as the linseed-oil is without varnish or any other hardener, it will take some days, even a week, before it is really hardened. I can then possibly polish it a bit more.
Anyway, most of this drums raison d´etre was to have a go at doing a shell myself...that it became a nice sounding snare is just a bonus. And after a little fettling today, it sounds nice, controlled and warm.
I only had a pair of old, rusty, cheap japanese pressed hoops to fit on it, will see if I can find some Prem diecasts at a reasonable price somewhere.
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Posted - 18/06/2012 : 23:19:26
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Jon - what brilliant work carried out in an inspired manner. As a cabinet maker and antique restorer I am more than impressed. As you said the Linseed doesn't have a great deal of driers or additives compared to say Danish oil - however it is a very traditional finish which if applied sparingly and built up will still give a beautiful lustre. If you let it soak in and dry more and it still doesn't have enough of a shine you can wax polish on top for more of a shine with a good beeswax based polish. Try on a scrap piece to see if you like it. Keep up the good work !! and have fun - Steve |
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bERb
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Posted - 18/06/2012 : 23:38:01
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| Well done Jon, excellent job.........Let's know how it sounds? |
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Captain Bubble
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Posted - 19/06/2012 : 08:31:39
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| Nice job Jon, and I like the finish: natural oil and wax finishes are what I prefer. For a fast finish on production drums I often use several coats of Outdoor Danish Oil which dries a lot faster than normal Danish Oil, then finish with two or three coats of Colron Wax Polish. This is liquid like shampoo and goes on very easily then after a few minutes it polishes up effortlessly. This combination gives a nice luster and can all be done in a few hours. |
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