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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 13/06/2012 :  13:57:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have no intention to compete with Mssrs. Carrera, Tocknell, Gladstone and so on - but it gives me great satisfaction to know I can do it myself!

14x6˝", 4 mm (6 ply) birch, reinforcement rings the same, and will be fitted with an innershell á la Premier Resonator when lugs and strainer is fitted. Will be made with a 30 degree inner, 45 outer and rounded apex kind of bearing edge.

Nothing revolutionary, and not something I couldn´t have bought quite easily. But I made it, it is round and I am proud!

Jon

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dogface
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Posted - 13/06/2012 :  14:15:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well done! Any pictures? And if it isn't too cheeky, how did you do it? Made a former first, then layed up leyers of veneer inside?
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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 13/06/2012 :  14:53:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Exactly.

2 mm, 3 ply veneer. Female former - made from a lot of slabs of 22mm plywood, leftovers from my roof - and a wheel from my wifes wheelbarrow on the inside to push the layers together while the glue hardens. It JUST fitted in, with the tire flattened and crumbled - and when pumped up real hard, it mushed the layers well together.

I made sure, that each layer really was just ˝ mm too long to fit in - had to be placed in the former Resonator-innershell style.


Not rocket science, and not really special. But again, it could be done without any special tools.


Pics will follow - possibly during the manufacture of the next one. That will be a really thick 4", I think. Something like 12-14 mm.


Jon

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Posted - 13/06/2012 :  15:10:18  Show Profile  Visit beezerk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jon Petersen



2 mm, 3 ply veneer. Female former - made from a lot of slabs of 22mm plywood, leftovers from my roof - and a wheel from my wifes wheelbarrow on the inside to push the layers together while the glue hardens. It JUST fitted in, with the tire flattened and crumbled - and when pumped up real hard, it mushed the layers well together.





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Bazarre
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Posted - 13/06/2012 :  16:19:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jon Petersen

Exactly.

2 mm, 3 ply veneer. Female former - made from a lot of slabs of 22mm plywood, leftovers from my roof - and a wheel from my wifes wheelbarrow on the inside to push the layers together while the glue hardens. It JUST fitted in, with the tire flattened and crumbled - and when pumped up real hard, it mushed the layers well together.

I made sure, that each layer really was just ˝ mm too long to fit in - had to be placed in the former Resonator-innershell style.


Not rocket science, and not really special. But again, it could be done without any special tools.


Pics will follow - possibly during the manufacture of the next one. That will be a really thick 4", I think. Something like 12-14 mm.


Jon


That's pure genius.

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Posted - 13/06/2012 :  16:38:07  Show Profile  Visit Badman_batman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree, that is great

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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 15/06/2012 :  21:13:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, guys! Of course I have been inspired by a lot of nice people sharing their inventions, so here are mine:

Here is the former itself, 5 layers of 22 mm plywood, with distancepieces in between. 2 layers of 2 mm birchveneer inside - and some coating restpieces, to make sure the glue won´t bond the new shell to the former...:

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-BBEC_4FDB88DD.jpg

Here is the bottom plate with the spindle for the wheelbarrow wheel - the nuts can adjust in which height the wheel is inserted into the mould:

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-44E4_4FDB88DD.jpg

Her with the wheel:

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-8C2A_4FDB8985.jpg

Here former with bottom plate fitted:

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-6635_4FDB8985.jpg

The wheel IS pretty large compared to the 14" former:

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-923B_4FDB8985.jpg

So must be crumbled a lot to fit in. I also have laid an extra layer of veneer between the tyre and the new shell, so as not to mark it with black rubber....

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-4C94_4FDB8985.jpg


Now my first shell has been oiled 3 times with linseed oil, with sandings with finer and finer paper, now grit 400. Tomorrow last treatment and grit 1000 and drilling holes for lugs (Premier Opera House) and strainer (also traditional Premier) and fittting a Resonator-style innershell, sunday cutting edges.

Monday the finished article?


Jon

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Th0mas25
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Posted - 17/06/2012 :  04:18:53  Show Profile  Visit Th0mas25's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Great stuff Jon, very clever but simple at the same time, like the best ideas often are. Looking forward to seeing the finished shell/snare

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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 17/06/2012 :  09:19:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am going to do the edges in a friends workshop today - hopefully I can do them with the lugs and strainer in situ, as I can then also have the reso-liner fitted while working the router.

That will make a nice, smooth inner edge.

Will post pics!


Jon


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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 17/06/2012 :  19:16:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Almost there:

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-45C6_4FDE1DC3.jpg

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-7946_4FDE1DC3.jpg

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-9DA3_4FDE1DC3.jpg

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-FBA9_4FDE1DC3.jpg


Inevitably, small problems will arise - I had to create some kind of "over"-notch to the John Grey Strainer, otherwise it just disengaged itself. That done, by filing the cam, there is not so much movement left - but enough, luckily. It works just fine.

I am very, very satisfied - and have made several notes to myself, where I can do better with the next shell.


Jon

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Th0mas25
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Posted - 17/06/2012 :  19:55:52  Show Profile  Visit Th0mas25's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hope you don't take this the wrong way Jon, maybe it's my monitor, but the exterior looks like it could do with a few more coats of oil, or some buffing or something to give it more of a shine. But the construction of the shell itself, the bearing edges and the reso liner look absolutely brilliant, a real pro job Jon!! and I like the use of the vintage hardware. Now you have the former and wheelbarrow wheel (yeah I can't see your wife getting that back haha!) I guess it won't be too difficult to make more. Very cool

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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 18/06/2012 :  00:25:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I will do more - in fact I have ordered 2 sheets (154 cm x 154 cm ) more.

Next will be slabs of 3-4 mm birch, beech and oak from a special supplier, a friend of my family with his own sawmill....

Regarding the finish - I like it as it is, it is not really hardened yet, but you might be right, I have been very impatient.


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Jon

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dogface
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Posted - 18/06/2012 :  11:13:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you've done a great job, well done.
As for the finish, I think simple oil finishes work very well for certain types of wood (close grained stuff). However, for the wood you have used (can't tell what it is) I think grain filler and stain would help before applying the final finish.
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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 18/06/2012 :  12:47:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is birch.

Actually, it became darker than I´d expected, but as I have Premier Projector kit I am going to strip of its coating, I have considered a couple of finishes. Oil like this or some semi-matt/silk PU lacquer.

This snare was a way of testing, as I presume the Projectors will act to the treatment very much in the same way.

I think I will like the lacquer better....

Jon

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dogface
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Posted - 18/06/2012 :  14:02:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My comments sounded unnecessarily critcal - sorry. You did a great job and I'm very impressed.
Birch is a very fine grained wood which doesn't need grain filler, and so is beech. Oak is very open grained and needs filling to achieve a mirror-like gloss. However, an un-filled matte/satin finish is traditional for oak.
There's a million options when it comes to wood finishing, but you probably know that already.
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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 18/06/2012 :  14:40:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I didn´t take your comment as negative - at all. I got exactly the same comment from a friend on the danish forum.

It is very smooth to the touch, and as the linseed-oil is without varnish or any other hardener, it will take some days, even a week, before it is really hardened. I can then possibly polish it a bit more.

Anyway, most of this drums raison d´etre was to have a go at doing a shell myself...that it became a nice sounding snare is just a bonus. And after a little fettling today, it sounds nice, controlled and warm.

I only had a pair of old, rusty, cheap japanese pressed hoops to fit on it, will see if I can find some Prem diecasts at a reasonable price somewhere.


Jon

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Posted - 18/06/2012 :  23:19:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jon - what brilliant work carried out in an inspired manner.
As a cabinet maker and antique restorer I am more than impressed. As you said the Linseed doesn't have a great deal of driers or additives compared to say Danish oil - however it is a very traditional finish which if applied sparingly and built up will still give a beautiful lustre. If you let it soak in and dry more and it still doesn't have enough of a shine you can wax polish on top for more of a shine with a good beeswax based polish. Try on a scrap piece to see if you like it. Keep up the good work !! and have fun - Steve
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bERb
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Posted - 18/06/2012 :  23:38:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well done Jon, excellent job.........Let's know how it sounds?

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Posted - 19/06/2012 :  08:31:39  Show Profile  Visit Captain Bubble's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nice job Jon, and I like the finish: natural oil and wax finishes are what I prefer. For a fast finish on production drums I often use several coats of Outdoor Danish Oil which dries a lot faster than normal Danish Oil, then finish with two or three coats of Colron Wax Polish. This is liquid like shampoo and goes on very easily then after a few minutes it polishes up effortlessly. This combination gives a nice luster and can all be done in a few hours.

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Jon Petersen
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Posted - 19/06/2012 :  08:40:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the kind words from everybody!

I sounds pretty much like expected. Warm, woody...OK.

I am not at all satisfied with the sound of my recordings on my basic home-recording equipment, SM58s and a Beta 52, but here are some anyway - "dry":

http://www.esnips.com/displayimage.php?album=4686007&pid=34124477&uid=910216#top_display_media

With a little comp:

http://www.esnips.com/displayimage.php?album=4686007&pid=34124476&uid=910216#top_display_media

The batter side head is an old, worn Ambassador, hadn´t a new one at hand.

I am not quite finished with it yet - I think I will make the snarebed a little deeper, and probably I will round the edges just a little more.

And maybe see if I can polish the surface - but that will be in some weeks time.


Jon

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