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ian-40
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Posted - 19/04/2012 :  18:41:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
move to grantham Dan. jobs galore where i work, expanding at an alarming rate

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Dan Jacobs
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Posted - 19/04/2012 :  19:24:51  Show Profile  Visit Dan Jacobs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'll move anywhere, where i can find a job that pays enough to cover rent/bills

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Drumbum
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Posted - 19/04/2012 :  19:48:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi drumcrew. I live in Merseyside, In the bottom 20% of deprived areas in the country. I came out of work and soon after my wife lost her job. We have 6 children. I did exactly the same as i have advised Dan to do.
Without sounding harsh, some people need to get of their arse, stop feeling sorry for themselves, give up their dream of having the ideal job doing what they love (temporarily), and find a job. Although times are very hard atm, there are jobs out there.

Get on with it. If you are single or without children the world is your oyster and you are not held to one area or way of life.

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MarkMooch
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Posted - 20/04/2012 :  01:31:14  Show Profile  Visit MarkMooch's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Bubble
I used my bike as my only regular transport when I was out of work and wanted to develop and produce a new invention; carrying stuff for my business on my bike I built up The World's Biggest and Best Timpani, Drum and Percussion Factory In The Whole Of South Bermondsey (Probably)!



Are you still in South Bermondsey Cap'n? I record at a studio in the Biscuit Factory units and have had a pint or two and a jam with the old guys at the Sport Cafe!

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drumting
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Posted - 20/04/2012 :  08:42:08  Show Profile  Visit drumting's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dan, I was going to post last night, but thought better of it.

I'm not clear on what you're hoping to achieve by posting on this (or any) forum?

Have you considered what the parent of the prospective student, or the student themselves might think after reading your post?
Don't want to be too harsh, as you're clearly not in a great place, but maybe think about your priorities.

As much as I love drums, and it's what pays my way, my attitude is always life first, drums second.

Get your life back in shape first, then worry about the drums when you have a more solid foundation. Maybe check out Maslow's hierarchy of needs, and compare it with your situation.

Best of luck with it all.

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anuntutoredyouth
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Posted - 21/04/2012 :  09:27:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you had any practical advice for job hunting other than just the get on your bike suggestions?

I.e. has anyone looked at your cv/ cover letter for you? If someone has, then get someone else to as its not working in current form, perhaps? Have you looked at temping agencies for work to tide you over? Ice had periods without work and made sure I kept exercising and finding things to do - even unpaid work looks good on a cv. Totally understand how such worries lead to dark times. The job I now have is the one I least expected to get. I hope that serves as a positive to see that stuff is there. Just like Tom Petty says...."the waiting is the hardest part"!
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WendyB
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Posted - 23/04/2012 :  13:51:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As an aside but related, did anyone else see Friday's Tonight programme? Interviewing folks in Telford, where unemployment stands at 9%, nobody interviewed who was unemployed wanted to work for a local copier company who was struggling to recruit - over 100 people were approached in a couple of hours. The company desperately wants to expand but can't get the staff. The main reason given was that benefit is so high it just isn't worth working, and that one company was not alone in its desire to recruit but finding the unemployed to be sadly lacking in even the most basic workplace skills.

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Captain Bubble
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Posted - 23/04/2012 :  14:06:37  Show Profile  Visit Captain Bubble's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MarkMooch

quote:
Originally posted by Captain Bubble
I used my bike as my only regular transport when I was out of work and wanted to develop and produce a new invention; carrying stuff for my business on my bike I built up The World's Biggest and Best Timpani, Drum and Percussion Factory In The Whole Of South Bermondsey (Probably)!



Are you still in South Bermondsey Cap'n? I record at a studio in the Biscuit Factory units and have had a pint or two and a jam with the old guys at the Sport Cafe!



Been here over 15 years and don't plan to move. Do mean the old Peek Freans one just off St James's Rd, I am at the other end of it; if you want to call in send me a PM!

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Dan Jacobs
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Posted - 30/04/2012 :  22:03:45  Show Profile  Visit Dan Jacobs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anuntutoredyouth

Have you had any practical advice for job hunting other than just the get on your bike suggestions?

I.e. has anyone looked at your cv/ cover letter for you? If someone has, then get someone else to as its not working in current form, perhaps? Have you looked at temping agencies for work to tide you over? Ice had periods without work and made sure I kept exercising and finding things to do - even unpaid work looks good on a cv. Totally understand how such worries lead to dark times. The job I now have is the one I least expected to get. I hope that serves as a positive to see that stuff is there. Just like Tom Petty says...."the waiting is the hardest part"!



Jim,
The last day long session at the 'Job Club' I have to attend gave us the following advice.
1. When shopping, eavesdrop around the staff to find out if they are talking about firing/hiring.
2. The problem of 'too many people applying for each job' is b0ll0cks.
3. Perhaps walk around town with a billboard saying 'I need a job!'.

I have split my CV into 5 for Shipping, Admin, Driving, Drumming and then a general one that's skills based, all have been double checked and approved.

I've delivered 1,000 A5 glossy double sided flyers offering drum tuition to large detached houses in the area and in the last two weeks I've written to almost 200 schools with covering letter, CV and poster.

I've applied for jobs as cleaner, car cleaner/litter picker, loads of admin jobs, I've joined agencies who said they had work and once the forms were filled in they said they hadn't etc etc

The bottom line is that I have decided I will definitely be moving within the next few months, although not sure how with no money, I just need to decide where to. Perhaps somewhere where I'd have more of a chance of finding students, but mainly somewhere where I'd have a chance of finding paid work.

Suggestions welcome

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mully
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Posted - 30/04/2012 :  22:41:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dan Jacobs

Suggestions welcome




One more time....

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Originally posted by Yard

You will find that it pays to visit and enquire about jobs than sending applications.


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Originally posted by mully

Absolutely. Go into stores, cafes, bars, shops or whatever and ASK IN PERSON to see the manager or owner. If they're not available, make an appointment to see them. I lost count of the number of schools and music schools I went to when I was trying to get a teaching gig, but eventually one said ok, we'll give you a try.


Originally posted by drumbum

Leave the house at 8.00am every day and ask anywhere and everywhere for a job.

Stephen

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JKDrummerDude
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Posted - 01/05/2012 :  09:29:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you're going to Agencies for jobs, then you have to talk to them early in the morning every morning. I used to have a list of numbers by the phone, got up at 7:00am and called each one. I managed to get work within three days that way. It was rubbish work, factory, minimum wage, but some cash is better than no cash.

You can't give up no matter how soul destroying it gets, you just have to try harder. There is a lot of competition for jobs, but a lot of it will not gt out of bed in the morning, so you can usually get the jump on them.

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